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Welcome to the Driftless Trek Podcast

The Driftless Trek Podcast is a production of Driftless Leadership, LLC

July 2025

Leadership Dialogues: A Preview of Our Season 4 Topics


S4 E1: The 25-26 school year is soon upon us, and the Driftless Trek Podcast will deliver -- again -- a series of pertinent leadership topics in support of educators and all leaders. In this episode, I provide a list of topics that my friend and mentor, Tom Thibodeau, and I, will be discussing over the next several months. We are excited to have you join us. Share the Driftless Trek Podcast with other leaders as you wish!

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June 2025

Make Every Interaction Matter 


S3 E10: Words have power. Words have meaning. We can use them to unite and provide dignity to one another, or we can use them to tear people and organizations down. As servant leaders -- as always --  let's choose the former as our mode of operation in everything we say and do.

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May 2025

Accountability: Mentor More Than Monitor  


S3 E9: As educators, we are living in a world increasingly impacted by metrics and measures and KPI's and scorecards. There's certainly a place for numbers. But we should avoid the pressures to use numbers-for-the-sake-of-numbers for accountability. My friend and mentor, Tom Thibodeau, Distinguished Professor in Servant Leadership at Viterbo University, joins me in this episode to discuss accountability for servant leaders. Enjoy!

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April 2025

Staying Positive In The Grinder


S3 E8: For educators, spring time can be the most  challenging time of the year. There is so much going on, and it sometimes feels like things are coming at your faster than ever. It is difficult for leaders to stay positive when they find themselves overwhelmed. How does one handle that? Tom Thibodeau, Distinguished Professor of Servant Leadership at Viterbo University in La Crosse, Wi has some insights. Enjoy!
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March 2025

"Sunday used to be a day of rest....."


S3 E7: Join me and my friend/mentor Tom Thibodeau, Distinguished Professor of Servant Leadership at Viterbo University in La Crosse, WI, as Tom suggests ways in which leaders who find themselves feeling down or overwhelmed or just full of anxiety can reset themselves. It's great wisdom (as usual) from someone who knows!
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February 2025

".....does anyone really have privacy?"


S3 E6: Of course, a leader must be visible in the community and the organization they lead.  My friend and mentor, Tom Thibodeau, distinguished professor of servant leadership at Viterbo University in La Crosse, Wisconsin, has some interesting things to say about visibility and privacy! Enjoy.
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January 2025

2025. Leadership. Chocolate. Count Me In!


S3 E5: Do servant leaders create their own success or does success just seem to find servant leaders? Experience the usual insightful 'nuggets' on a response to my question from my friend and mentor, Tom Thibodeau, distinguished professor of servant leadership at Viterbo University in La Crosse, Wisconsin.
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December 2024

"Hire For Character. Teach For Skill"


S3 E4: If I've heard it said once, I've heard it a thousand times: "I spend so much of my time putting out fires and solving issues for the same employees all the time. It's hard for me to do my real job!" 

Perhaps it's the nature of the leadership beast, but this common issue spending so much time putting out fires is a question I posed recently to my friend and mentor, Tom Thibodeau, distinguished professor of servant leadership at Viterbo University in La Crosse, Wisconsin.
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November 2024

"Trust: The Secret Sauce"


S3 E3: One of the most challenging responsibilities of a leader is to establish trust at all levels of the organization, inside and ominously outside as well. It's a challenging question I pose to my friend, Tom Thibodeau, distinguished professor of servant leadership at Viterbo University in La Crosse. Tom provides great insight on trust, integrity and forgiveness.
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October 2024

"Are Servant Leaders 'Softies'?"


S3 E2: As a leader, one is always considering decisions that you deem are in the best interest of the organization and its stakeholders. When it's perceived that your leadership tends to consider people first, it sometimes results in people assuming that you are a 'softie'. It's a point-blank question that recently I asked of friend and mentor Tom Thibodeau, Distinguished Professor of Servant Leadership at Viterbo University in La Crosse. "Are Servant Leaders 'Softies'?"
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September 2024

"Service Is Love Made Visible"


S3 E1: 'Service is love made visible.' It's how we ended last year's Driftless Trek podcast with special guest, Tom Thibodeau. This year, Tom joins us again for ALL of the Driftless Trek Podcasts. In this episode, I asked Tom to expand on this profundity: 'Service Is Love Made Visible'. And -- as usual -- he did not disappoint. 7:01

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The Driftless Trek Podcast dates back to 2023. You can enjoy prior episodes here.

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